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Sunday, February 9, 2025

A Cross to Bear

2024 while eventful for had been a dry year for me in terms of trials. So, when the opportunity presented itself for me to join a trial sometime in November, I went.

It was a criminal matter at Magistrate’s court level, and I had immense fun. Both me and the lead counsel did but most importantly it sparked a discussion between me and the lead counsel on cross examination process itself. This was of course after the day was done, after dinner and on the drive back to the City.


Intro

In a trial, the purpose of cross examination is to attack your opponent’s case until their position and evidence is rendered hollow, meaningless and not to be relied on by the judge and in doing so, tilt the scales of justice in your client’s favour. Now, here is a more experienced take on cross-examination (dude even wrote a book on Advocacy which I strongly recommend). Owing to my still on-going studies in the art of cross examination, I will not dwell on the techno-legal (definitely not fengtau) side of Cross-Examination but for now I think it is sufficient to remember the important rule that you must put your case to the opposing witness. Failure to do so would mean that you have agreed with their evidence. There are many local cases on this but being a poyo kind of guy and because it is easier for me to remember because it is orang putih name, just refer to the case of Browne v Dunn [1893] 6 R 67. Also, bear in mind the difference between putting and suggesting something to a witness. There is an article in MLJ about this by a prominent judge if I was not mistaken. Can’t remember the name of the judge.

As how to put your case to the witness, so far, I find that it is a blend of style and understanding of human nature. I think the old fable on Wind and Sun having a wager on who can get a guy’s jacket off is of application here. The Wind blew and blew. First a gust, later in a great gale and the guy just wrapped his jacket closer against the cold. The Sun did nothing but shine until the warmth had the guy took off his jacket as a matter of course.  The point is, there is a difference between forcing and leading a witness to where you want them to be on their own volition.

Of course, one should not be all nice and cozy with an opposing witness throughout the cross-examination. In the words of my teacher and mentor, you are not there to make friends with a witness but, I might add you still can be friendly with a witness and hand him the noose.

 

Conversational Style vs Confrontational Style

Most lawyers either adopt the hammer to submission style or conversational style. The best combines both.

Conversational style is about putting the witness at ease. Speak to them like you would speak to a friend, minimize or eliminate the legalese whenever possible. We lawyers tend to fall into legalese because of the false assumption that legalese makes us more authoritative to a witness (especially laymen witnesses) when all it does is confuse them. They are already ill at ease with being on the witness stand where the attention is all on them with lawyers asking all these questions. Get them to overcome their nervousness of appearing in court, their distrust for lawyers. Courtesy costs nothing and will open doors. When done perfectly, the witness themselves will ask for the shovel by which they will dig themselves a hole they cannot get out from.

For some reason, the hammer approach is the mostly associated with criminal lawyers at least that is the case in my observation. The approach combines intimidation with aggressiveness both in language and tone of voice to make the witness yield and submit to the cross examiner’s assertions. I am not a fan of this approach and I don’t think most judges appreciate it either. There is already tension in the air, no need to add further tension to the proceeding. Most importantly, if it goes on and on, it tends to be annoying.  But there are many ways to skin a cat. If this works for you, go for it.

 

Yes-No Questions

I was guilty of this for quite some time until it read that Chapter X of the Evidence Act 1950 did not provide the cross examiner any means to directly control what kind of answer a witness should give to any question put to them. This runs contrary to the prevalent practice in court where the yes or no questions is the go-to form of cross examination. I have seen seniors do it, I have seen DPPs do it. But just because (almost) everyone does it does not mean you should or most importantly, it does not mean it is right.  

The best of all, is when the cross examiner before even beginning his cross-examination cautions the witness to only answer yes or no to all questions posed to him or her. I was guilty of this before. Nowadays, whenever I hear this, I see it as an opportunity to rattle the cross-examiner. An objection to this direction will disrupt the flow and the train of thought of the cross-examiner because the yes or no approach invariably boils down to total reliance on scripted cross-examination questions where there is a planned sequence of questions where the expected answer is either yes or no and no explanation or elaboration by the witness is allowed (The standard line goes: Kalau ada penerangan nanti peguam awak akan mintak penerangan lepas ni). Now, when your opponent objects to this line of questioning, it would force you to reorganize your questions on the fly and control the witness at the same time. Some practitioner can manage it, some could not. Cheap shot? Definitely. Legal? Perfectly. Most important of all it saves the court’s time and yours from a lengthy Re-Examination.

I understand why some practitioners feel the need to totally rely on yes or no questions. It provides them with predictability and predictability means safety. Yes or No questions it is a set of training wheels for a newbie. But you can’t be using training wheels your whole practicing life can you? Can’t be doing wheelie and weikang with them training wheels on.

I would not say there is no place for Yes or No question in a cross examination. There is. Its proper place should be as the penultimate question to a particular factual or legal point you are trying to make. The final fence post surrounding the witness and the question should be drafted as such that the answer can only be yes or no without having the cross examiner to direct the witness to answer yes or no. Most importantly, if done right, it does not even matter whether the witness answers yes or no as both answers will equally destroy his credibility and/or evidence and/or made your point.

Abandoning the total yes or no approach also presents another set of challenges because with answers and explanations given by witness will sometimes veer towards unrelated matter not raised in your original question. This is when you need to control to witness, remind them to stay on point, interrupt them if you have too because if the witness is allowed to talk on and on it will piss off the judge because you are not in control of the witness and wasting the court’s time. But sometimes the longer the answer/explanation, the more rope you have to hang them with. Therein lies the challenge; between controlling the witness and having more opportunities to destroy your opponent’s case. It takes a lot of practice to balance between the two but you will get there eventually.

 

I put to you, I suggest to you

These two used to be my favourite way to drive home that final fence post for a particular issue in a cross examination. Putting your case to the witness.  Again as mentioned before there is a difference between putting and suggesting to a witness. One is when you have the evidence to back it up. The other is when you only have a plausible theory. Kindly look for that MLJ article. I still can’t remember the name of the judge. 

Anyway, like I said, I used to utilize the two above questions as a concluding question to a particular issue. One, it makes it easier for me to identify later in the Notes of Proceedings when the line of questioning for a topic has ended and to signal to the judge that I am done with that particular topic. However, as it was pointed out to me by my mentor the wording I put to you or I suggest to you is called signposting. It can signal to the witness to answer no to the particular question. Especially  if  the preceding questions are sloppily drafted and asked. Nowadays, I tend to drop the signposting questions in favour of a more natural language approach hence my preference to  a more conversational style of cross-examination. Either way, whether it is put or suggest it is imperative to make your case known to the witness during cross examination.

Have a cross-exam questions list (‘’the script’’) but be prepared to ditch it

The are many ways to prepare for cross-examination. I was told there are those who can do it on the fly (mad respect bro!), there are those who wrote down expected answers instead of the questions and work their way backwards. There are also those who instead of answers or questions wrote down the issues or ingredients of the claim/ defence they want to cover during cross examination.

As for me, it is not possible for me to remember every single thing so it is only natural for me to write down the cross exam questions or the script supported with list of documents with the page number to be referred to as a way to prepare for cross-examination. However, be prepared to go off script. Because things almost always never go according to plan. Maybe, a witness can be a stubborn one which bears repeating some questions or maybe you hit upon a simpler way to get the answers that you want mid stream or maybe a witness could give you a long, damning answer (damning to your opponent) in support of your case from your simple question (what luck!). The more you do it the easier it become for you to develop that agility in cross-examining. In short, have a script but learn not to be stuck to it rigidly.

Not to overcook the steak

The more you practice the easier it will get for you know what kind of answer you want to get out of a witness in a cross-examination. I had never experienced the old days where Witness Statements are not yet in vogue. All that I know is that Witness Statements made it easier for you to know why a particular witness is called to give evidence. Wily lawyers will try to catch you with a little surprise by way of additional questions during EIC. But most of the time, you will know what to get from a witness during cross-examination by referring to the Witness Statement, that is if you get them on time before trial.

The moment you get what you want whether it is to prove or disprove the elements of the civil wrong or to extract an agreement from a witness for particular factual point in their knowledge, sit down. Try not to overdo it. Remember that an overcooked steak is dry and flavourless. You do not want your case to be remembered as such. Let it be juicy and done just right. 

 

Outro

Cross examination while a evidential and trial procedure, it is at the heart of it deeply personal thing. The above is what works for me. May be it will work for you, maybe it will not. Maybe you deeply enjoy it like I do, maybe you don't.

For me cross-examination is the best part of a trial next to submissions. In cross-examination you can see the full range of human experience and character. The outright lies, the tears, the anger, the witty repartee, the smart witness leaving the lawyer stumped. All sorts of things. I am but a poor vessel to convey the whole experience. It must be experienced personally. For me it is fun if done right and if it achieves its purpose. Done badly it becomes another cross to bear for a judge, along with all bad advocacy he or she went through that week and does not bode well to your case.

 

Tuesday, June 27, 2023

Ada apa dengan Janggut? (or trying to go full Gandalf)


Ever since I can grow one, I’ve always maintained a beard or some variant of it whenever I could. Whenever I could because back in my uni days I was in a uniformed body (it was a handy bargain, in return for roll calls on Wednesday mornings in full uniform and activities during semester break I get to have free accommodation at the university hostels).

While I was part of the uniformed body, the only prescribed mode of facial hair in the regulations were mustaches. So go ahead, grow a soup strainer or a handlebar but absolutely no hairs on your chin and I do not really know why beards are frowned upon. Perhaps it is a relic from the Brits just like Sam Browne belts and tea.

I tried but despite my best efforts to grow a mustache the result remains disappointing. They look like two warring camps of hair with a no man’s land in between them. Hopefully one day they will find a common ground for peace and coexistence. My beard however, is an entirely different matter. It is a feral thing. It needs no coaxing or grape seed oil to grow. It just does what it wants and grows in any direction it wants. If left alone I daresay It will eventually demand for self government. So for 5 years until I finally graduated I had to be smooth cheeked. That was during my uni days. During the MCOs I was on my way towards going full Gandalf until the day my long suffering Missus had a shiny new hair clipper placed right in front of me (damn you Shopee) so I got the message. Now, every three months or so I’d have the barber trim it as to make it look decent. Fairly decent.

Still, that does not fully explain the beard. I gave different answers to different people who asked. Different but all true. Once during my first day of pupillage one of the named Partner called me to his office for a get-to-know-each other chat. Having run out of pleasantries he motioned to my nascent beard (as it was then) and asked: kenapa awak bela janggut? Taking note of the Islamic vibe of the firm during my earlier interview I simply said: Sebab Sunnah (Two days ago i discovered that some in the Shafi'e school considered it Wajib). He nodded approvingly and that was the end of our conversation. Later that day he would assign me a particularly difficult legal opinion due to be delivered on the same evening and told me I was to follow him for a meeting the next day for a client whom the same legal opinion is for. I was his chauffeur that day despite only having obtained my driving license two months prior. Then another assignment led to other assignments on top my other equally challenging duties for other partners and court attendances.

In hindsight I should have given a different answer. But, shave my beard? Never!

Another time I was mistaken for a Kelantanese or a PAS supporter by a mesmerized Indian auctioneer in Klang. I was early to the auction. The auction house was on top of a motorcycle workshop. While waiting in the small stuffy room for the auction to start at the appointed time, I noticed that the auctioneer kept on looking at me. When it was clear there were no interested bidder to the property on auction together we did the admin work of signing and rubber stamping the POS and such. While we were doing that he asked me: Bang, abang orang Kelantan ke?. I find this amusing because the auctioneer is his 40’s or 50’s, definitely way older than me and somehow he thought I was older of the two of us. But to answer him I said no, I am not from Kelantan.

Dissatisfied, he went on: Orang Pas ke? I was sorry to disappoint him but I told him I had no party affiliation of whatsoever. I saw another question forming in his face but I beat him to it. Kenapa Encik tanya? Looking sheepish he replied: Tadaa la, Itu Janggut. Saya ingat Abang orang Kelantan ke, orang Pas ke apa. So I told him I grew one out of my own choice. My work done, I thank him and left before any further questions could come. The PAS supporter bit I understand but Kelantanese? I got a few Kelantanese guys as batchmates and none of them sported a full on beard.

I thought apart from making me look older, sporting a beard would also make me look more distinguished and wise thereby allowing me to escape the junior experience with clients or in the courts. But nope. None such luck. Somehow I think most judges have the ability to smell a junior from a mile away, beard or no beard. Even today in some hearings or trials I still feel like a captive mice being toyed with before the final devouring and that some clients insisted that I consult an older and more seasoned colleague (which I did anyway out of habit but it rankles me to be told to do so). So much for being wise. 

The thing about having a beard is that you can scratch them to show irritation, stroke it while thinking on something or twirl it a bit while being deeply engaged in an even deeper thoughts or while formulating an argument. It gives you something to do with your hands while you contemplate. Most importantly, more hair for you to style: sport an Imperial or a French Fork or good old goatee. If all else fails you can always plait your beard long and hail Odin or whatever pagan/ Nordic deity of your choice. 

Having a beard also has its price. I’ve had my beard yanked hard by my eldest when he was 3 or 4 months old. That vise like grip of a baby's hand and that quick involuntary tug. Brought tears to my eyes, it did. So Alexander the Great was right to insist on a clean shaven army. Yanking on a beard can be immobilizing to an opponent. A beard is also super smell absorbent. So a lot of shampooing and care is necessary to keep it nice and sweet smelling. But having said all that would I consider shaving off my beard especially in this heat? No sir, I will not. Come Hell or highwater, this beard is here to stay. It has become a part of my identity that I simply could not imagine myself without it. Without it I would be like a cowboy without his ten gallon hat or a pendekar without his keris, a litigator without his bands.

Besides, it is a useful Macguffin in my ongoing cases of mistaken identity which I find very amusing. The total tally so far is:

a)being mistaken for a Kelantanese: 1

b)being mistaken for a Pas supporter: 1

c)being mistaken for a Dato’: 2 (Once in POJ, another at Shah Alam Court. But could be unrelated to the beard)

e)being mistaken for a JAIS officer/agent: 1

Maybe if I live long enough the list could expand to being mistaken for Fidel Castro (El Commandante!), a philosopher, a tanned Gandalf, a castaway, an honorary Tolkein-esque dwarf or even a mountaintop sage in town for groceries.


Whatever it is, I pray for a long, fruitful life and even longer beard. 





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