Saturday, February 15, 2025

Hobi Baru

Tak ada post panjang berjela hari ini. Cuma ada pertembungan bila ada mesin taip lama (masih lagi belajar nak menaip tanpa cacat cela) dan apabila menerjah lubang arnab yakni Perang Saudara Inggeris 1645-1652.

Berikut adalah pertuduhan yang dilemparkan terhadap Raja Charles I (tiada kaitan dengan Charles III sekarang ini, lain susur-galur) yang dibuat oleh Solicitor General, John Cooke:


Dan ini pulak antara jawapan Raja Charles I.


So, can you put an English king on trial? The English certainly did. Now, was the trial a fair one? Certainly don't look that way. Charles I was not informed of his charges before arrest, there was no presumption of innocence, he was not given time to prepare his defence, his challenges to the court's jurisdiction fell on deaf ears and he has no right of appeal. In short, it was an utter disgrace to the English legal system. 

Anyhow, It still blows my mind that for a brief period in time England was a military dictatorship in the guise of a theocratic republic. England, of all places!

Sunday, February 9, 2025

A Cross to Bear

2024 while eventful for had been a dry year for me in terms of trials. So, when the opportunity presented itself for me to join a trial sometime in November, I went.

It was a criminal matter at Magistrate’s court level, and I had immense fun. Both me and the lead counsel did but most importantly it sparked a discussion between me and the lead counsel on cross examination process itself. This was of course after the day was done, after dinner and on the drive back to the City.


Intro

In a trial, the purpose of cross examination is to attack your opponent’s case until their position and evidence is rendered hollow, meaningless and not to be relied on by the judge and in doing so, tilt the scales of justice in your client’s favour. Now, here is a more experienced take on cross-examination (dude even wrote a book on Advocacy which I strongly recommend). Owing to my still on-going studies in the art of cross examination, I will not dwell on the techno-legal (definitely not fengtau) side of Cross-Examination but for now I think it is sufficient to remember the important rule that you must put your case to the opposing witness. Failure to do so would mean that you have agreed with their evidence. There are many local cases on this but being a poyo kind of guy and because it is easier for me to remember because it is orang putih name, just refer to the case of Browne v Dunn [1893] 6 R 67. Also, bear in mind the difference between putting and suggesting something to a witness. There is an article in MLJ about this by a prominent judge if I was not mistaken. Can’t remember the name of the judge.

As how to put your case to the witness, so far, I find that it is a blend of style and understanding of human nature. I think the old fable on Wind and Sun having a wager on who can get a guy’s jacket off is of application here. The Wind blew and blew. First a gust, later in a great gale and the guy just wrapped his jacket closer against the cold. The Sun did nothing but shine until the warmth had the guy took off his jacket as a matter of course.  The point is, there is a difference between forcing and leading a witness to where you want them to be on their own volition.

Of course, one should not be all nice and cozy with an opposing witness throughout the cross-examination. In the words of my teacher and mentor, you are not there to make friends with a witness but, I might add you still can be friendly with a witness and hand him the noose.

 

Conversational Style vs Confrontational Style

Most lawyers either adopt the hammer to submission style or conversational style. The best combines both.

Conversational style is about putting the witness at ease. Speak to them like you would speak to a friend, minimize or eliminate the legalese whenever possible. We lawyers tend to fall into legalese because of the false assumption that legalese makes us more authoritative to a witness (especially laymen witnesses) when all it does is confuse them. They are already ill at ease with being on the witness stand where the attention is all on them with lawyers asking all these questions. Get them to overcome their nervousness of appearing in court, their distrust for lawyers. Courtesy costs nothing and will open doors. When done perfectly, the witness themselves will ask for the shovel by which they will dig themselves a hole they cannot get out from.

For some reason, the hammer approach is the mostly associated with criminal lawyers at least that is the case in my observation. The approach combines intimidation with aggressiveness both in language and tone of voice to make the witness yield and submit to the cross examiner’s assertions. I am not a fan of this approach and I don’t think most judges appreciate it either. There is already tension in the air, no need to add further tension to the proceeding. Most importantly, if it goes on and on, it tends to be annoying.  But there are many ways to skin a cat. If this works for you, go for it.

 

Yes-No Questions

I was guilty of this for quite some time until it read that Chapter X of the Evidence Act 1950 did not provide the cross examiner any means to directly control what kind of answer a witness should give to any question put to them. This runs contrary to the prevalent practice in court where the yes or no questions is the go-to form of cross examination. I have seen seniors do it, I have seen DPPs do it. But just because (almost) everyone does it does not mean you should or most importantly, it does not mean it is right.  

The best of all, is when the cross examiner before even beginning his cross-examination cautions the witness to only answer yes or no to all questions posed to him or her. I was guilty of this before. Nowadays, whenever I hear this, I see it as an opportunity to rattle the cross-examiner. An objection to this direction will disrupt the flow and the train of thought of the cross-examiner because the yes or no approach invariably boils down to total reliance on scripted cross-examination questions where there is a planned sequence of questions where the expected answer is either yes or no and no explanation or elaboration by the witness is allowed (The standard line goes: Kalau ada penerangan nanti peguam awak akan mintak penerangan lepas ni). Now, when your opponent objects to this line of questioning, it would force you to reorganize your questions on the fly and control the witness at the same time. Some practitioner can manage it, some could not. Cheap shot? Definitely. Legal? Perfectly. Most important of all it saves the court’s time and yours from a lengthy Re-Examination.

I understand why some practitioners feel the need to totally rely on yes or no questions. It provides them with predictability and predictability means safety. Yes or No questions it is a set of training wheels for a newbie. But you can’t be using training wheels your whole practicing life can you? Can’t be doing wheelie and weikang with them training wheels on.

I would not say there is no place for Yes or No question in a cross examination. There is. Its proper place should be as the penultimate question to a particular factual or legal point you are trying to make. The final fence post surrounding the witness and the question should be drafted as such that the answer can only be yes or no without having the cross examiner to direct the witness to answer yes or no. Most importantly, if done right, it does not even matter whether the witness answers yes or no as both answers will equally destroy his credibility and/or evidence and/or made your point.

Abandoning the total yes or no approach also presents another set of challenges because with answers and explanations given by witness will sometimes veer towards unrelated matter not raised in your original question. This is when you need to control to witness, remind them to stay on point, interrupt them if you have too because if the witness is allowed to talk on and on it will piss off the judge because you are not in control of the witness and wasting the court’s time. But sometimes the longer the answer/explanation, the more rope you have to hang them with. Therein lies the challenge; between controlling the witness and having more opportunities to destroy your opponent’s case. It takes a lot of practice to balance between the two but you will get there eventually.

 

I put to you, I suggest to you

These two used to be my favourite way to drive home that final fence post for a particular issue in a cross examination. Putting your case to the witness.  Again as mentioned before there is a difference between putting and suggesting to a witness. One is when you have the evidence to back it up. The other is when you only have a plausible theory. Kindly look for that MLJ article. I still can’t remember the name of the judge. 

Anyway, like I said, I used to utilize the two above questions as a concluding question to a particular issue. One, it makes it easier for me to identify later in the Notes of Proceedings when the line of questioning for a topic has ended and to signal to the judge that I am done with that particular topic. However, as it was pointed out to me by my mentor the wording I put to you or I suggest to you is called signposting. It can signal to the witness to answer no to the particular question. Especially  if  the preceding questions are sloppily drafted and asked. Nowadays, I tend to drop the signposting questions in favour of a more natural language approach hence my preference to  a more conversational style of cross-examination. Either way, whether it is put or suggest it is imperative to make your case known to the witness during cross examination.

Have a cross-exam questions list (‘’the script’’) but be prepared to ditch it

The are many ways to prepare for cross-examination. I was told there are those who can do it on the fly (mad respect bro!), there are those who wrote down expected answers instead of the questions and work their way backwards. There are also those who instead of answers or questions wrote down the issues or ingredients of the claim/ defence they want to cover during cross examination.

As for me, it is not possible for me to remember every single thing so it is only natural for me to write down the cross exam questions or the script supported with list of documents with the page number to be referred to as a way to prepare for cross-examination. However, be prepared to go off script. Because things almost always never go according to plan. Maybe, a witness can be a stubborn one which bears repeating some questions or maybe you hit upon a simpler way to get the answers that you want mid stream or maybe a witness could give you a long, damning answer (damning to your opponent) in support of your case from your simple question (what luck!). The more you do it the easier it become for you to develop that agility in cross-examining. In short, have a script but learn not to be stuck to it rigidly.

Not to overcook the steak

The more you practice the easier it will get for you know what kind of answer you want to get out of a witness in a cross-examination. I had never experienced the old days where Witness Statements are not yet in vogue. All that I know is that Witness Statements made it easier for you to know why a particular witness is called to give evidence. Wily lawyers will try to catch you with a little surprise by way of additional questions during EIC. But most of the time, you will know what to get from a witness during cross-examination by referring to the Witness Statement, that is if you get them on time before trial.

The moment you get what you want whether it is to prove or disprove the elements of the civil wrong or to extract an agreement from a witness for particular factual point in their knowledge, sit down. Try not to overdo it. Remember that an overcooked steak is dry and flavourless. You do not want your case to be remembered as such. Let it be juicy and done just right. 

 

Outro

Cross examination while a evidential and trial procedure, it is at the heart of it deeply personal thing. The above is what works for me. May be it will work for you, maybe it will not. Maybe you deeply enjoy it like I do, maybe you don't.

For me cross-examination is the best part of a trial next to submissions. In cross-examination you can see the full range of human experience and character. The outright lies, the tears, the anger, the witty repartee, the smart witness leaving the lawyer stumped. All sorts of things. I am but a poor vessel to convey the whole experience. It must be experienced personally. For me it is fun if done right and if it achieves its purpose. Done badly it becomes another cross to bear for a judge, along with all bad advocacy he or she went through that week and does not bode well to your case.

 

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